1st Elder says that since she was an Elder of the Union, he can see that she's not asking foolish questions, like why they're attacking their people, since she already knows the answer, because 2nd Elder was ready to devour the humans at any moment and even tried to act on that plan recently. Lunark realises that if he is the 1st Elder, then these guys are from the Union, she thinks it was a mistake not to keep an eye on the Union, but she didn't expect them to do something so drastic.
Lunark wonders if the man who is talking is the real 1st Elder and asks him directly. 1st Elder states that she must recognise Haydn, since he's been acting on his behalf. Lunark asks who they are, and what they think they're doing on the werewolves' land? 1st Elder greets Lunark as 5th Elder, she responds that she doesn't know who he is and addresses Haydn as 1st Elder. After seeing Garda, Juraki and Dorant defeated.
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